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    1. #26
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      So what is the different between a tank and a tank destroyer? Can't tanks take each other out.


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      Tank destroyers act more as anti-tank artillery, typically carrying missiles specifically designed to destroy tanks. They're not widely used anymore, heyday was in WWII.

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      Tank destroyers act more as anti-tank artillery, typically carrying missiles specifically designed to destroy tanks. They're not widely used anymore, heyday was in WWII.
      Gotcha thanks



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      full facebook page on ww1-2 relic hunting

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/WW1-W...279074?fref=ts



    4. #29
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      So what is the different between a tank and a tank destroyer? Can't tanks take each other out.


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      Every military has its own definition.

      Basically a tank destroyer is a self propelled armored vehicle with a gun able to fight tanks... But usually with an absent or limited mobility turret. In this case no turret.

      Less useful than a tank, at a disadvantage because it needs to turn entirely to aim, but it's cheaper so that guarantees it a spot out there.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Member View Post
      Every military has its own definition.

      Basically a tank destroyer is a self propelled armored vehicle with a gun able to fight tanks... But usually with an absent or limited mobility turret. In this case no turret.

      Less useful than a tank, at a disadvantage because it needs to turn entirely to aim, but it's cheaper so that guarantees it a spot out there.
      Plus, lower to the ground and easier to hull-down and destroy tanks or catch them by suprise. The open canopy also affords more visibility to engage quicker. Not so great when the other tank sees you, but in a tank fight whomever sees the other usually has a huge huge advantage. unless you are a tiger or panther. than you just win anyway

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      Cant believe nobody hasnt said this yet but: y u do dis bogs

    7. #32
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      Quote Originally Posted by Member View Post
      So what is the different between a tank and a tank destroyer? Can't tanks take each other out.


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      In ww2 a tank destroyer was a vehicle designed for a single purpose. To take down armored vehicles. That meant a vehicle that had very little armor but carries a very powerful. They would be faster and typically more maneuverable then a full size tank. They would use that advantage to flank and do hit n run attacks against armorial columns.

      Germany and Russia were alike in that they both produced tank destroyers with no turret. The gun could traverse and move a little but not that much. The tank destroyers would haslve to turn the entire vehicle.

      Us/British. Developed tank destroyers using existing chassis and installing new turrets and a better gun 75mm-90mm. They followed the same tactics of the axis. Using speed and manuverability to there advantage.

      Each side also would dig deffilades and park the tank in that to ambush enemy armor

      Modern tank destroyers still use those tactics and run a mix of big guns/or ATGMs(anti tank ground missile).Russia will use bump 123 body's and bren body's and modify what weaponry they use. Mostly anti tank missiles.

      The Usa does the same. Either using older m113 with anti tank missiles along with the striker and lav platforms. The striker tank destroyer the m1128 uses strikers with a gun/cannon from the m1a1 Abram's. They use the 105mm gun compared to the Abram's upgraded 120mm cannon.

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      would suck getting stuck in a tank in ww2. esp not a german one. Fuck that!

    9. #34
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      I'm in no shape right now to type lol

      But all combatants in all wars destroy their equipment rather than allowing it to fall into enemy hands.

      Bogs were ideal because it risked the least in terms of the enemy getting anything of value out of it. Maybe as many as a thousand German and Russian AFVs were dumped this way.
      Yeah I realise they dumped tons of stuff, but I was thinking more if you had any actual links to articles on this stuff considering your in depth knowledge and professional interest in these things

      Latest thing I've seen was the potential recovery of spit fires over at Burma

    10. #35
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      Quote Originally Posted by Member View Post
      Plus, lower to the ground and easier to hull-down and destroy tanks or catch them by suprise. The open canopy also affords more visibility to engage quicker. Not so great when the other tank sees you, but in a tank fight whomever sees the other usually has a huge huge advantage. unless you are a tiger or panther. than you just win anyway
      Almost forgot...

      No turret means you can fit a bigger gun on a smaller tracked vehicle.

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      Yeah I realise they dumped tons of stuff, but I was thinking more if you had any actual links to articles on this stuff considering your in depth knowledge and professional interest in these things

      Latest thing I've seen was the potential recovery of spit fires over at Burma
      On my phone for the next several days

    12. #37
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      How in the fuck did they find that
      A friend of a friend does this. They use high end metal detecting and archeological equipment. That and a little bit of knowledge and research.

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      why were they driving tanks into mut pits...no wonder they lost the war
      Not only did they did that to get rid of them but they also drove in accidentally sometimes. Sometimes the germans or russians would drive across lightly frozen or snowed over bogs and rivers and get stuck and sucked in. There has been a few dug up with bodies inside .

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      Isnt this where the term "getting bogged down" came from?

    14. #39
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      I know of a cool tank game but I don't want to plug their forum.

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      that is fucking awesome...and the ISU

    16. #41
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      So what is the different between a tank and a tank destroyer? Can't tanks take each other out.


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      a lot cheaper and more quickly to produce easier to mount a big gun on a small chassis.

      StuGs were the most produced german armored vehicles and took out more allied vehicles than any other axis combat vehicle.

      there are significant disadvantages compared to turreted tanks, however, using tank destroyers defensively rather than offensively (ie dug in rather than out in the open) could negate some of those.

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      a lot cheaper and more quickly to produce easier to mount a big gun on a small chassis.

      StuGs were the most produced german armored vehicles and took out more allied vehicles than any other axis combat vehicle.

      there are significant disadvantages compared to turreted tanks, however, using tank destroyers defensively rather than offensively (ie dug in rather than out in the open) could negate some of those.
      digging in was a big reason we are seeing lots of tanks pulled from bogs and what not. They dug in, got steamrolled and abandoned there vehicle. 50-60 years later and the ground eventually covered the vehicle.

    18. #43
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      On my phone for the next several days

    19. #44
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      But all combatants in all wars destroy their equipment rather than allowing it to fall into enemy hands.

      Bogs were ideal because it risked the least in terms of the enemy getting anything of value out of it. Maybe as many as a thousand German and Russian AFVs were dumped this way.
      Was going to post this as well.


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